From jenni at theweblotus.com Mon Aug 10 18:43:04 2009
From: jenni at theweblotus.com (Jenni Beard)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:43:04 -0400
Subject: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
Message-ID: <08f301ca1a14$4e5c2450$eb146cf0$@com>
Hi all,
First off, I am new to this list, so hello and nice to "meet" you all! I
have a stronger background in the marketing aspect of web development than
my coding abilities, so was thrilled when I found this list as I sometimes
run into challenges that no amount of Googling seems to solve. I have one
now that I am hoping someone can help me with.
I am having a terrible time with this project. I have a site design
(http://spiritmoves.com/new-site/graphics/draft4b.jpg) where the background
image of the dancer (this one is a placeholder until the photographer sends
me the real ones) to the right is going to be randomly switching out each
time a new page is loaded. I will be coding the site layout in CSS.
I belong to a CSS group where I asked for and got some help on that end of
the issue. I have searched for, and found, ASP code online that randomly
outputs an image from a designated folder. But I did not know how to
integrate that with a css layout image. The advice I received differs
greatly from the ASP code I've used in the past, though. He suggested first
that I set up the following CSS:
.dancer {
/* all of the styles for the element apart from bg-image */ }
#dancer1 { background-image: url(/path/to/image/dancer1.jpg); }
#dancer2 { background-image: url(/path/to/image/dancer2.jpg); }
And then, that I use in my html something like:
//Create an array, however that is done
['dancer1', 'dancer2', 'dancer3', 'dancer4']
...
Content
I'm still not sure this will work as I don't know if ASP and CSS can be used
in conjunction like that, but open to giving it a shot!
I've managed to create the following array, which I *think* is right:
<%
Dim dancer(3)
dancer(0)="#dancer1"
dancer(1)="#dancer2"
dancer(2)="#dancer3"
dancer(3)="#dancer4"
%>
But, when I get to the area to create the code to output the random div id,
I am stumped. This should be really simple but I've spent literally hours
searching online and can find nothing that seems right. Anyone? I'm on
digest, so please cc me on replies.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
Jenni
From brian at hondaswap.com Mon Aug 10 18:50:54 2009
From: brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:50:54 -0400
Subject: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
In-Reply-To: <08f301ca1a14$4e5c2450$eb146cf0$@com>
References: <08f301ca1a14$4e5c2450$eb146cf0$@com>
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Hi Jenni,
I would do something like this:
<%
Function RandomNumber(intHighestNumber)
Randomize
RandomNumber = Int(intHighestNumber * Rnd) + 1
End Function
'if you have 4 images, you would call it like this:
touse = RandomNumber(4)
%>
Then, touse will hold a value of 1,2,3, or 4.
using your css rules pre-defined, you can simply output like this:
From Jono at charlestonwebsolutions.com Mon Aug 10 19:02:59 2009
From: Jono at charlestonwebsolutions.com (Jono)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:02:59 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access to
In-Reply-To: <472577830905130624n2f7cd539ub1a2fd38cbf7e10e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4A80B533.6020604@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
I need to get the following implemented without having access to the
tag:
...
...
Mostly, I need a way to do body onload="initialize()"
onunload="GUnload()" without having access to the body. This is for a
CMS that has jQuery support baked in, but there is also a ton of other
scripts that I need to not interfere with.
I am a JS hack on a good day, can someone please suggest a solution that
I can try? I will more or less be doing this, with in a designated
content area within the apge:
Thanks!
From Paul.Bennett at mch.govt.nz Mon Aug 10 19:24:34 2009
From: Paul.Bennett at mch.govt.nz (Paul Bennett)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:24:34 +1200
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access to
In-Reply-To: <4A80B533.6020604@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
Message-ID:
Hi Jono,
You may want to look at document.onunload() ?
Paul
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From hassan.schroeder at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 19:39:45 2009
From: hassan.schroeder at gmail.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:39:45 -0700
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access to
In-Reply-To: <4A80B533.6020604@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
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<4A80B533.6020604@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Jono wrote:
> I need to get the following implemented without having access to the
> tag:
> Mostly, I need a way to do body onload="initialize()"
> onunload="GUnload()" without having access to the body. ?This is for a
> CMS that has jQuery support baked in, but there is also a ton of other
> scripts that I need to not interfere with.
So you need to do something like this:
:: where, when the document is loaded in the browser, some function
is bound to an event on the "body" element(s) -- hopefully there's only
one :-) -- to do whatever.
So by putting this in the head of the document, I can then click any
spot in the window after it loads and get a "wtf" alert...
HTH,
--
Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder at gmail.com
twitter: @hassan
From cervantes_vive at yahoo.com Tue Aug 11 07:03:36 2009
From: cervantes_vive at yahoo.com (ivo)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:03:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access to
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You can attach a DOM event listeners
window.addEventListener('load',load_handler, false);
document.addEventListener('load', load_handler, false);
As well as attach a listener to the unload event
window.addEventListener('unload', unload_handler, false);
document.addEventListener('unload', unload_handler, false);
From Jono at charlestonwebsolutions.com Tue Aug 11 04:34:21 2009
From: Jono at charlestonwebsolutions.com (Jono)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:34:21 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access
to
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Essentially, yes that is what I am after. I won't have access to the either, so this will all go inline. How do I ensure - body onload="initialize()" onunload="GUnload()" - happens using your example? I see how what you mentioned works, but how do I make that do the onload and onunload that is attached to the body?
Shot in the dark guess:
???
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Jono wrote:
>
> So you need to do something like this:
>
>
>
> :: where, when the document is loaded in the browser, some function
> is bound to an event on the "body" element(s) -- hopefully there's only
> one :-) -- to do whatever.
>
From barney at clickwork.net Tue Aug 11 08:08:19 2009
From: barney at clickwork.net (Barney Carroll)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:08:19 +0100
Subject: [thelist] Reliable end-of-queue onload event
Message-ID: <472577830908110608w68c8ee55wa2f0f6a233973dac@mail.gmail.com>
Hello list,
For a while I've enhanced my sites with variations of a script that hides
the page while it loads, and presents the user with the finished and
fully-functional thing as and when it's ready. I'm now trying to refine this
script into a reliably portable form so that it can be dropped in at the end
of any page's head element and prevent semi-functional half-rendered pages
from imposing themselves upon you too early.
Script below:
As you can see, the mechanism is stupidly simple ? document.write a style
tag that hides the body and base-64 include a background image of a
'loading...' animated gif, then when the page has loaded, delete the style
tag to leave the page as the authors intended.
I found a page which loads over 500kb of Javascript, much of it called from
within the body tag, including Google Maps, Prototype, and several
stand-alone DOM-manipulation plugins, and suffers a significant pause
halfway through rendering the body while the scripts go back over what's
there, edit, adjust, etc ? basically a page that could really use this
script. However when I insert the code above, my window.onload event never
fires (I assume this was one of the other scripts commandeering the
window.onload event) so I tried editing the script to associate the function
call with an attachEvent/eventListener for the window (or document,
whichever the browser could use) load event, but this fired way too early ?
before most of the content had rendered ? and it was only after this event
that I got prompts such as 'Google Maps API key incorrect' etc.
So using the first method, my event never fires, and using the second it
fires too early to be of any use. I want the function's trigger to execute
at the end of the queue of any other scripts waiting for a full page load
(or as close as possible). Is there a more reliable way of associating my
function with the load event?
Regards,
Barney Carroll
barney.carroll at gmail.com
07594 506 381
From hassan.schroeder at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 14:24:04 2009
From: hassan.schroeder at gmail.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:24:04 -0700
Subject: [thelist] Google Map - onload & onunload without access to
In-Reply-To: <4A813B1D.6020508@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
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<4A80B533.6020604@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
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<4A813B1D.6020508@charlestonwebsolutions.com>
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Jono wrote:
> Essentially, yes that is what I am after. ?I won't have access to the either, so this will all go inline. ?How do I ensure - body onload="initialize()" onunload="GUnload()" - happens using your example? ?I see how what you mentioned works, but how do I make that do the onload and onunload that is attached to the body?
You need to spend time with the JQuery doc :-)
> $(document).ready( function() { $("body").bind("onload", initialize()).("onunload", GUnload())});
Actually, this is wrong, in that at the point JQuery defines "ready",
the body's onload event has already passed.
You'll have to decide if there's a functional difference between those
two (pseudo)events in your case, but if not, you could do e.g.
$(document).ready( function() {
initialize();
$("body").bind("unload", function(){ GUnload();});
});
Or something like that :-)
HTH,
--
Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder at gmail.com
twitter: @hassan
From jenni at theweblotus.com Tue Aug 11 16:30:40 2009
From: jenni at theweblotus.com (Jenni Beard)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:30:40 -0400
Subject: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
In-Reply-To: <4A80B25E.9080102@hondaswap.com>
References: <08f301ca1a14$4e5c2450$eb146cf0$@com>
<4A80B25E.9080102@hondaswap.com>
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Hi Bill, and thanks for the reply. One thing I do not understand from this,
is how it ties in to the array I've already created:
<%
Dim dancer(3)
dancer(0)="#dancer1"
dancer(1)="#dancer2"
dancer(2)="#dancer3"
dancer(3)="#dancer4"
%>
Or, if I've not done the array correctly, how the code below will be written
to tie it into the images that need to randomize. Help please?
Thanks!!
Jenni
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:51 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
Hi Jenni,
I would do something like this:
<%
Function RandomNumber(intHighestNumber)
Randomize
RandomNumber = Int(intHighestNumber * Rnd) + 1
End Function
'if you have 4 images, you would call it like this:
touse = RandomNumber(4)
%>
Then, touse will hold a value of 1,2,3, or 4.
using your css rules pre-defined, you can simply output like this:
--
From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Tue Aug 11 22:21:34 2009
From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:21:34 +1000
Subject: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
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References: <08f301ca1a14$4e5c2450$eb146cf0$@com>
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Message-ID:
The variable "touse" holds a value from 1 -> 4
You want a random element from an array numbered from 0 -> 3.
So, we will subtract 1 from the value of touse, and get that element from the array.
Try this in a web page:
<%
' Put Bill's code here to generate the random value stored in touse
Response.Write("Current value of touse is: " & touse & "
" & vbCrLf)
newTouse=touse-1
Response.Write("Subtracting 1 from touse. New value is: " & newTouse & "
" & vbCrLf)
Response.Write("Getting this element from array. Value is: " & dancer(newTouse) & "
" & vbCrLf)
%>
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Jenni Beard
Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2009 5:31 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Cc: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
Hi Bill, and thanks for the reply. One thing I do not understand from this, is how it ties in to the array I've already created:
<%
Dim dancer(3)
dancer(0)="#dancer1"
dancer(1)="#dancer2"
dancer(2)="#dancer3"
dancer(3)="#dancer4"
%>
Or, if I've not done the array correctly, how the code below will be written to tie it into the images that need to randomize. Help please?
Thanks!!
Jenni
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:51 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
Hi Jenni,
I would do something like this:
<%
Function RandomNumber(intHighestNumber)
Randomize
RandomNumber = Int(intHighestNumber * Rnd) + 1 End Function
'if you have 4 images, you would call it like this:
touse = RandomNumber(4)
%>
Then, touse will hold a value of 1,2,3, or 4.
using your css rules pre-defined, you can simply output like this:
From Ron.Luther at hp.com Wed Aug 12 14:23:09 2009
From: Ron.Luther at hp.com (Luther, Ron)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:23:09 +0000
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
Message-ID: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
Hi Gang,
I'm thinking of maybe expanding this into an article for evolt ... but I thought I would run it by y'all first to see if it was worth developing any further.
I was talking to some folks about a 'knowledge management system' yesterday and got a bit annoyed when I asked about the link rot issue and they immediately threw up their hands and gave up on even pretending to address the problem.? I really hate that "impossible" word, and anyway, it didn't seem like it should be that hard a thing to tackle. ;-)
It's mostly at a conceptual level, but here is what I thought up this morning: I think it should work for any large content system.
(1) Start by implementing an internal version of a system like Tinyurl.com.? These don't look very hard to build.? There are several of these around the web.? You input a 'long' URL.? They insert it into a DB table and give you a much shorter [indexed] URL.? When you click on the short URL you are taken to their website where an application cross references the longer URL from the DB and redirects you to that location. I suspect that very little coding is actually needed ... and that even less for an internal app where you can maim anyone abusing the system!
(2) Add some code to the 'validation' or 'publication' approval process to ensure that no non-tiny URLs can be loaded into your content system.? Again, this should be pretty easy to do {if you find "http://blahblah" and not "http://BigEvolt/xx" flag it as an error) and should be fairly easy to incorporate into the workflow 'approval' process.
(2B) For extra credit you should be able to work up a spider to find all existing non-tiny URLs in your system, run them through the process and automagically replace them in your content. Thus allowing retrofit to systems already containing a considerable amount of content. {Yeah, yeah - there may be some pain while you work through excluding your naming convention for inclusion, graphic, and css files. I'm not convinced (unless y'all say so) that this is such a biggie. It may force naming conventions to be a little more formally structured and organized - but for an internal content app that may not be a bad thing. [It you're aggregating content from dozens of sources where you have no control over their structure it may not be a workable solution - la vie!] }
(3) Now the fun part.? The benefit of an external tinyurl service is that the 'tiny' link is unlikely to wrap and break in an email.? The benefit of an internal implementation of such a service is that it gives you a single database table containing *all* of the reference URLs in your entire content system.? That is a big plus.? Huge. Once you have that information in one place you can write a routine that checks the links one-by-one and reads the http return status code.? That allows you to generate a report and, for example, send Joel an email containing all of the "404" (or whatever else you choose to test for) broken links, along with identification of the page containing the bad hyperlink, and the name of the person who entered that page so he can track them down and 're-educamate'them.
Yes? No? Any value here? Or is everyone already using a much simpler procedure that I haven't been clued in on yet?
Thanks,
Ron
From joel at bizba6.com Wed Aug 12 15:46:54 2009
From: joel at bizba6.com (Joel Canfield)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:46:54 -0700
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
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>
> Yes? No? Any value here? Or is everyone already using a much simpler
> procedure that I haven't been clued in on yet?
>
>
I like it (other than the part about sending the problems to me.)
My request is, don't make the magic URLs case sensitive, the way Bit.ly did.
Yeah, you have to add a sixth character to get a billion instead of a
million; people were just starting to get used to case insensitivity on the
web and now they've taken a big step backwards.
Looking forward to reading the full article, and the follow-up where you
talk about how you implemented it at your place of employment. And the
follow-up about introducing heretical ideas in conservative businesses ;)
joel
From skquinn at speakeasy.net Wed Aug 12 17:37:56 2009
From: skquinn at speakeasy.net (Shawn K. Quinn)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:37:56 -0500
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <619d00930908121346yf0b1b5fgc529d7f8256b95a4@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 13:46 -0700, Joel Canfield wrote:
> My request is, don't make the magic URLs case sensitive, the way
> Bit.ly did.
> Yeah, you have to add a sixth character to get a billion instead of a
> million; people were just starting to get used to case insensitivity
> on the
> web and now they've taken a big step backwards.
The path portions of URLs *are* case sensitive according to the
specifications. The hostnames are not and never have been.
If people are getting used to case insensitivity, they are getting used
to error recovery behavior, and this *will* bite them sooner or later.
--
Shawn K. Quinn
From joel at bizba6.com Wed Aug 12 20:13:04 2009
From: joel at bizba6.com (Joel Canfield)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:13:04 -0700
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <1250116676.14842.8.camel@afterburner>
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<1250116676.14842.8.camel@afterburner>
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>
> If people are getting used to case insensitivity, they are getting used
> to error recovery behavior
I contend that they're getting used to the machine adjusting to humans,
rather than us adjusting to them.
If I type my name Joel or joel, I don't expect others to think I'm two
people. If a computer, by design or accident, doesn't know that, I will not
adjust to the computer. Let it adjust to me.
joel
From mydarb at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 20:49:52 2009
From: mydarb at gmail.com (Brady Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:49:52 -0700
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
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> (2) Add some code to the 'validation' or 'publication' approval process to ensure that no non-tiny URLs can be loaded into your content system.? Again, this should be pretty easy to do {if you find "http://blahblah" and not "http://BigEvolt/xx" flag it as an error) and should be fairly easy to incorporate into the workflow 'approval' process.
I like the idea, but its worth noting that this would significantly
impact the seo value of links on your site. If it's a tool or internal
site that's obviously not an issue, but for a public-facing website it
would be.
> The benefit of an internal implementation of such a service is that it gives you a single database table containing *all* of the reference URLs in your entire content system.? That is a big plus.? Huge.
I'm working on something similar and looking forward to the automated
link checks. In my case I'm planning to disable any links that are
broken and create a broken links report.
I'd be interested to read your article.
Brady
From rudy at r937.com Wed Aug 12 21:59:56 2009
From: rudy at r937.com (r937)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:59:56 -0400
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
Message-ID: <1CF30831AF3D494DB43CD5B3263FBC6C@curly>
> The benefit of an internal implementation of such a service
> is that it gives you a single database table containing *all*
> of the reference URLs in your entire content system.
just a quick note to say that you can get the same benefit, using the same
database table, except ~without~ converting the url to tiny format
> That is a big plus. Huge. Once you have that information in
> one place you can ...
the benefit is from having the database of urls, not from them being tiny
your great idea, ron, could be even better, once you see how to do it
without the tiny urls
;o)
rudy
http://r937.com/
From viggie at viggie.com Wed Aug 12 22:24:39 2009
From: viggie at viggie.com (Viggie)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:54:39 +0530
Subject: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
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Hi Jenni,
With Bill's code, you don't need that array.
He clearly listed out the randomizing part. And in the html example he
used that random number directly in css.
see...
the html output will be or
id="dancer2", "dancer3",... etc.
All you need apart from this code is to create necessary css for IDs
dancer1, 2, 3....etc.
Hope it helps,
cheers,
Viggie
__________________________
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On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 17:30 -0400, Jenni Beard wrote:
> Hi Bill, and thanks for the reply. One thing I do not understand from this,
> is how it ties in to the array I've already created:
>
> <%
> Dim dancer(3)
>
> dancer(0)="#dancer1"
> dancer(1)="#dancer2"
> dancer(2)="#dancer3"
> dancer(3)="#dancer4"
> %>
>
> Or, if I've not done the array correctly, how the code below will be written
> to tie it into the images that need to randomize. Help please?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Jenni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:51 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] VBScript output randomizer
>
> Hi Jenni,
>
>
> I would do something like this:
>
> <%
> Function RandomNumber(intHighestNumber)
> Randomize
> RandomNumber = Int(intHighestNumber * Rnd) + 1
> End Function
>
>
> 'if you have 4 images, you would call it like this:
>
> touse = RandomNumber(4)
>
> %>
>
> Then, touse will hold a value of 1,2,3, or 4.
>
> using your css rules pre-defined, you can simply output like this:
>
>
From skquinn at speakeasy.net Thu Aug 13 01:41:56 2009
From: skquinn at speakeasy.net (Shawn K. Quinn)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:41:56 -0500
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <619d00930908121813q19f27dbfj8b59dadcb9c8e376@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
<619d00930908121346yf0b1b5fgc529d7f8256b95a4@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:13 -0700, Joel Canfield wrote:
[I wrote:]
> > If people are getting used to case insensitivity, they are getting used
> > to error recovery behavior
>
> I contend that they're getting used to the machine adjusting to humans,
> rather than us adjusting to them.
>
> If I type my name Joel or joel, I don't expect others to think I'm two
> people. If a computer, by design or accident, doesn't know that, I will not
> adjust to the computer. Let it adjust to me.
There are cases where case insensitivity should not apply. However, the
specification says URLs are case sensitive, and there are applications
where case sensitivity matters and is used on a daily basis (YouTube).
At minimum, if a server application is going to act in a case
insensitive fashion, it should 301 redirect to either the correct case
or a canonical case, rather than just blindly returning the same 200
response to two different URLs that in reality point to the same
document. (This is so caching proxies only cache one copy.)
--
Shawn K. Quinn
From Ron.Luther at hp.com Thu Aug 13 13:31:57 2009
From: Ron.Luther at hp.com (Luther, Ron)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:31:57 +0000
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <619d00930908121346yf0b1b5fgc529d7f8256b95a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
<619d00930908121346yf0b1b5fgc529d7f8256b95a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB17066CD913@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
Joel Canfield noted:
>>I like it (other than the part about sending the problems to me.)
Awww ... and here I thought that was a new business opportunity for ya! ;-PPPPP
>>My request is, don't make the magic URLs case sensitive, the way Bit.ly did.
Interesting. Hadn't thought about that. I guess I wasn't expecting anyone to try to type one in. I believe I was considering the URL itself to be something more akin to a sku and that any 'intelligence' would go in either in the descriptive text or in something like the link's title attribute.
I have also rethought my exclusion of things like css links. I'm leaning now towards including them. You would want to know when they break as well, right?
>>Looking forward to reading the full article,
Thanks.
>>and the follow-up where you talk about how you implemented it at your place of employment.
You mean where I talk about cleaning diet coke out my keyboard? [... Although my opinions on the matter have been forwarded to the IT 'powers that be' ... so we shall see!]
>>And the follow-up about introducing heretical ideas in conservative businesses ;)
Hear, hear! Author, author ... Oh! Dat's you!
Cheers,
RonL.
From hassan.schroeder at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 13:44:50 2009
From: hassan.schroeder at gmail.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:44:50 -0700
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <1CF30831AF3D494DB43CD5B3263FBC6C@curly>
References: <1CF30831AF3D494DB43CD5B3263FBC6C@curly>
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:59 PM, r937 wrote:
> just a quick note to say that you can get the same benefit, using the same
> database table, except ~without~ converting the url to tiny format
? How so? "un-tiny-fied" URLs could point to anywhere.
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From Ron.Luther at hp.com Thu Aug 13 13:52:24 2009
From: Ron.Luther at hp.com (Luther, Ron)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:52:24 +0000
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <43f7a9ca0908121849i6cc5b9c1i80cb8dd6143d8953@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
<43f7a9ca0908121849i6cc5b9c1i80cb8dd6143d8953@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB17066CD94E@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
Brady Mitchell noted:
>>I like the idea, but its worth noting that this would significantly
>>impact the seo value of links on your site. If it's a tool or internal
>>site that's obviously not an issue, but for a public-facing website it
>>would be.
Hi Brady,
Excellent observation! (I spend most of my time naval gazing on internal systems and miss external considerations like that.)
I'm not sure *anything* would help seo if you need to rewrite links in an existing large scale content system, so that could well be a barrier to entry for this idea. I'll think about it ... but I would be more than happy to swipe any cool ideas anybody else has on that front.
I do, however, have a possible work around for the 'starting from scratch' situation ...
Suppose we design our homegrown 'tiny' application to change current links from "http://example.com" to shiny new (and improved!) links like "http://BigRon/example.com". It's not any shorter, so the 'tinyurl' designation is a bit misleading in that regard. But that's not the value add here. The important part here is getting all of those links in a table we can test from. And this still fits that bill.
Moreover, since we're not changing file names from things like 'Les_Paul.jpg' [1] to things like '6XiKk3.jpg' it shouldn't impact any 'intelligence' or seo value built into the file name ... right? ... and it may even keep certain folks happy on the CamelCase and capitalization front.
>>I'm working on something similar and looking forward to the automated
>>link checks. In my case I'm planning to disable any links that are
>>broken and create a broken links report.
How fun! Great minds abend in the same hexdump, eh? It must be a winner then!
Thanks,
RonL.
[1] Sorry to hear that he passed away today.
From Ron.Luther at hp.com Thu Aug 13 14:01:37 2009
From: Ron.Luther at hp.com (Luther, Ron)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:01:37 +0000
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <1CF30831AF3D494DB43CD5B3263FBC6C@curly>
References: <1CF30831AF3D494DB43CD5B3263FBC6C@curly>
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Rudy noted:
>>the benefit is from having the database of urls, not from them being tiny
Correctamundo sir!
Yeah, I just noted that while reading Brady's comments. The 'tinyurl' was a bit of a red herring. I was referring more to the process of getting all the links into the backend table than to the size reduction to eliminate email wrap-breakage. Spot on.
RonL.
Heh. Want to see something really fun? ... here is the actual example I included in my internal email (I needed an example since the memo will be going to a number of IT management folks - who, naturally, won't have a clue what a 'tinyurl' is): http://tinyurl.com/pv6s5u Thought you might get a kick out of that!
;-)
From mwarden at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 08:26:55 2009
From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:26:55 -0400
Subject: [thelist] fields larger than 4K in Oracle sql loader
Message-ID:
Gentlemen and Ladies:
I am using Oracle's sqlldr utility to load a flat file into a staging
table for further processing. I have a question that I cannot get
answered from The Google...
How do I select a character string longer than 4000? Can I concatenate
somehow using boundfillers? Do I need to use a special type (not
CHAR)?
If you are specifying a ROWS parameter and it seems to be ignored
based on the commit interval that results, try increasing the BINDSIZE
to 4054*ROWS (e.g. for ROWS=500, try BINDSIZE=2027000).
http://lbdwww.epfl.ch/f/teaching/courses/oracle9i/server.920/a96652/ch04.htm#1004690
--
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From anthony at baratta.com Fri Aug 14 09:48:22 2009
From: anthony at baratta.com (Anthony Baratta)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:48:22 -0700
Subject: [thelist] fields larger than 4K in Oracle sql loader
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4A857936.4010506@baratta.com>
Here's a place to start. Not sure if SQL Loader supports CLOBs for
importing.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/appdev.102/b14249/toc.htm
--
Anthony Baratta
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt 18 Nov 1783
From evolt at markgroen.com Fri Aug 14 14:23:57 2009
From: evolt at markgroen.com (Mark Groen)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:23:57 -0700
Subject: [thelist] FW: Link Rot
In-Reply-To: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
Message-ID: <4A85B9CD.2050805@markgroen.com>
Luther, Ron wrote:
> a much simpler procedure that I haven't been clued in on yet?
Wouldn't really call it simple, but the Apache mod_rewrite module can handle link rot and guessing that Sun and Windows have similar capability.
cheers,
Mark
Luther, Ron wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm thinking of maybe expanding this into an article for evolt ... but I thought I would run it by y'all first to see if it was worth developing any further.
>
> I was talking to some folks about a 'knowledge management system' yesterday and got a bit annoyed when I asked about the link rot issue and they immediately threw up their hands and gave up on even pretending to address the problem. I really hate that "impossible" word, and anyway, it didn't seem like it should be that hard a thing to tackle. ;-)
>
>
> It's mostly at a conceptual level, but here is what I thought up this morning: I think it should work for any large content system.
>
> (1) Start by implementing an internal version of a system like Tinyurl.com. These don't look very hard to build. There are several of these around the web. You input a 'long' URL. They insert it into a DB table and give you a much shorter [indexed] URL. When you click on the short URL you are taken to their website where an application cross references the longer URL from the DB and redirects you to that location. I suspect that very little coding is actually needed ... and that even less for an internal app where you can maim anyone abusing the system!
>
> (2) Add some code to the 'validation' or 'publication' approval process to ensure that no non-tiny URLs can be loaded into your content system. Again, this should be pretty easy to do {if you find "http://blahblah" and not "http://BigEvolt/xx" flag it as an error) and should be fairly easy to incorporate into the workflow 'approval' process.
>
> (2B) For extra credit you should be able to work up a spider to find all existing non-tiny URLs in your system, run them through the process and automagically replace them in your content. Thus allowing retrofit to systems already containing a considerable amount of content. {Yeah, yeah - there may be some pain while you work through excluding your naming convention for inclusion, graphic, and css files. I'm not convinced (unless y'all say so) that this is such a biggie. It may force naming conventions to be a little more formally structured and organized - but for an internal content app that may not be a bad thing. [It you're aggregating content from dozens of sources where you have no control over their structure it may not be a workable solution - la vie!] }
>
> (3) Now the fun part. The benefit of an external tinyurl service is that the 'tiny' link is unlikely to wrap and break in an email. The benefit of an internal implementation of such a service is that it gives you a single database table containing *all* of the reference URLs in your entire content system. That is a big plus. Huge. Once you have that information in one place you can write a routine that checks the links one-by-one and reads the http return status code. That allows you to generate a report and, for example, send Joel an email containing all of the "404" (or whatever else you choose to test for) broken links, along with identification of the page containing the bad hyperlink, and the name of the person who entered that page so he can track them down and 're-educamate'them.
>
>
> Yes? No? Any value here? Or is everyone already using a much simpler procedure that I haven't been clued in on yet?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
>
From norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com Fri Aug 14 16:46:48 2009
From: norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com (Norman Bunn)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:46:48 -0400
Subject: [thelist] window.opener.open opening new tab or pop-up
In-Reply-To: <4A85B9CD.2050805@markgroen.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
<4A85B9CD.2050805@markgroen.com>
Message-ID: <013901ca1d28$ba3540f0$2e9fc2d0$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
http://174.132.88.71/~glennass/index.php
When you open this link, there is a image in the upper right entitled
"Navigation Wheel". This launches a pop-up, that you should be able to
click and cause the original window to change. Instead it is creating a new
tab or a new pop-up, so the more you click, the more windows you get.
Any ideas on how do I get it to update the original window?
Sample code:
href="#"
onclick="javascript:window.opener.open('index.php?option=com_content&view=se
ction&layout=blog&id=11&Itemid=59');
Thanks,
Norman
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From norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com Fri Aug 14 17:59:59 2009
From: norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com (Norman Bunn)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:59:59 -0400
Subject: [thelist] window.opener.open opening new tab or pop-up
In-Reply-To: <013901ca1d28$ba3540f0$2e9fc2d0$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net> <4A85B9CD.2050805@markgroen.com>
<013901ca1d28$ba3540f0$2e9fc2d0$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <014901ca1d32$f36df380$da49da80$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
Never mind. I got the answer. I need to refer "location.href" and not
"open".
onclick="javascript:window.opener.location.href='index.php?option=com_conten
t&view=section&layout=blog&id=11&Itemid=59';"
Thanks,
Norman
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bunn
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:47 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] window.opener.open opening new tab or pop-up
http://174.132.88.71/~glennass/index.php
When you open this link, there is a image in the upper right entitled
"Navigation Wheel". This launches a pop-up, that you should be able to
click and cause the original window to change. Instead it is creating a new
tab or a new pop-up, so the more you click, the more windows you get.
Any ideas on how do I get it to update the original window?
Sample code:
href="#"
onclick="javascript:window.opener.open('index.php?option=com_content&view=se
ction&layout=blog&id=11&Itemid=59');
Thanks,
Norman
From anthony at baratta.com Fri Aug 14 09:54:23 2009
From: anthony at baratta.com (Anthony Baratta)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:54:23 -0700
Subject: [thelist] fields larger than 4K in Oracle sql loader
In-Reply-To: <4A857936.4010506@baratta.com>
References:
<4A857936.4010506@baratta.com>
Message-ID: <4A857A9F.6010605@baratta.com>
Anthony Baratta wrote:
> Here's a place to start. Not sure if SQL Loader supports CLOBs for
> importing.
>
More
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=sql+loader+clob
--
Anthony Baratta
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In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
-- The Solution by Bertolt Brecht
From chris.price at choctaw.co.uk Fri Aug 14 18:17:07 2009
From: chris.price at choctaw.co.uk (Chris Price)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:17:07 +0100
Subject: [thelist] window.opener.open opening new tab or pop-up
In-Reply-To: <013901ca1d28$ba3540f0$2e9fc2d0$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
References: <6C571521FE9E4348AA16498E72C483BB170661DB00@GVW0671EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net> <4A85B9CD.2050805@markgroen.com>
<013901ca1d28$ba3540f0$2e9fc2d0$@bunn@craftedsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <4A85F073.2090201@choctaw.co.uk>
Norman Bunn wrote:
> http://174.132.88.71/~glennass/index.php
>
> When you open this link, there is a image in the upper right entitled
> "Navigation Wheel". This launches a pop-up, that you should be able to
> click and cause the original window to change. Instead it is creating a new
> tab or a new pop-up, so the more you click, the more windows you get.
>
> Any ideas on how do I get it to update the original window?
Not only does it create a new tab, once you've clicked the wheel in the
pop-up, the pop-up loses focus so it and the original window have
disappeared.
Pop-ups are irritating critters and I have taken to use other devices
wherever I can.
I would suggest using a combination of css and javascript. I would have
a div which is absolutely positioned but invisible when the page loads.
Then when you click on the wheel, that div appears with the pleasing
effect of the compass needle. You can include a query in the url which
tells the next page to make the div appear on-load so that its always
there until its no longer needed.
If you do it properly you can get rid of all the onclicks and javascript
calls in the code.
I was confused because there was no mouseover effect on the wheel on the
main page. You can give it a cursor: pointer style to do that.
I love the imagery but the mechanics are clumsy.
Just noticed you said you got the answer but would you consider an
unobtrusive javascript and css solution?
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From fredthejonester at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 09:14:05 2009
From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:14:05 +0300
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
Message-ID: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
We have a client in the UK who registered 3 domain names with 1and1.
Their hosting is so bad that we are now switching to a very good host
in Germany, and I would like to transfer the domain names also. The
registrar I use in the UK can do .eu but not .co.uk.
Can anyone recommend a trustworthy registrar for .co.uk?
Thanks.
From bobm at dottedi.biz Sun Aug 16 09:40:53 2009
From: bobm at dottedi.biz (Bob Meetin)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:40:53 -0600
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
In-Reply-To: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A881A75.5010602@dottedi.biz>
land1 - brings back nightmares. any reliable registrar (that is not a
hosting company first and a registrar as a by the way) should be fine.
In spite of their sexist advertising and if you can navigate through
the offer shrapnel, godaddy works, but not British.
Fred Jones wrote:
> We have a client in the UK who registered 3 domain names with 1and1.
> Their hosting is so bad that we are now switching to a very good host
> in Germany, and I would like to transfer the domain names also. The
> registrar I use in the UK can do .eu but not .co.uk.
>
> Can anyone recommend a trustworthy registrar for .co.uk?
>
> Thanks
>
--
Bob
From jason.handby at corestar.co.uk Sun Aug 16 09:53:21 2009
From: jason.handby at corestar.co.uk (Jason Handby)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:53:21 +0100
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
In-Reply-To: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9A50776858A21848A96469CDFCBCDEFF0267F452@exch-be12.exchange.local>
> We have a client in the UK who registered 3 domain names with 1and1.
> Their hosting is so bad that we are now switching to a very good host
> in Germany, and I would like to transfer the domain names also. The
> registrar I use in the UK can do .eu but not .co.uk.
>
> Can anyone recommend a trustworthy registrar for .co.uk?
http://www.totalregistrations.com/ seem ok to me. You could also look at
http://www.nettica.com/ if you want DNS + registration in one place?
Jason
From Ed at ComSimplicity.com Sun Aug 16 16:37:31 2009
From: Ed at ComSimplicity.com (Edward McCarroll)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:37:31 -0700
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
In-Reply-To: <4A881A75.5010602@dottedi.biz>
References: <177c0a10908160714x554e588eva17afca4a5440c40@mail.gmail.com>
<4A881A75.5010602@dottedi.biz>
Message-ID: <8E93E072DFFE46F5B6DC4C8B0256E489@optiplex755>
> In spite of their sexist advertising and if you can navigate
> through the offer shrapnel, godaddy works, but not British.
GoDaddy is notorious for inappropriate, overbearing dealings with
their clients: http://NoDaddy.com
I've had two clients that were using them, and there were unnecessary
problems in both cases.
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From neuro at well.com Sun Aug 16 17:06:28 2009
From: neuro at well.com (William Anderson)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:06:28 +0100
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
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Fred Jones wrote:
> We have a client in the UK who registered 3 domain names with 1and1.
> Their hosting is so bad that we are now switching to a very good host
> in Germany, and I would like to transfer the domain names also. The
> registrar I use in the UK can do .eu but not .co.uk.
>
> Can anyone recommend a trustworthy registrar for .co.uk?
gradwell.com although they're not a 'bargain basement' registrar (tenner
for a domain).
-n
From bobm at dottedi.biz Sun Aug 16 22:10:08 2009
From: bobm at dottedi.biz (Bob Meetin)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:10:08 -0600
Subject: [thelist] Good British Registrar
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Edward McCarroll wrote:
>> In spite of their sexist advertising and if you can navigate
>> through the offer shrapnel, godaddy works, but not British.
>>
>
> GoDaddy is notorious for inappropriate, overbearing dealings with
> their clients: http://NoDaddy.com
>
> I've had two clients that were using them, and there were unnecessary
> problems in both cases.
>
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> Ed McCarroll Ed at ComSimplicity.com
>
Agreed hands down! Once you get to know their system and how to avoid
their overbearing, overdealing, overzealous, over____ methods and close
your eyes, their domain management system is usable and has not been
problematic (for me). Getting from A to point B after making a purchase
with godaddy does require a PHD from Stanford. Tucows, however, gives me
the jitters. It's all propaganda...