From dean.mah at gmail.com Tue May 8 16:45:09 2007 From: dean.mah at gmail.com (Dean Mah) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:45:09 -0600 Subject: [theforum] Comments from the community Message-ID: http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt#comment-65031 http://evolt.org/2006-weo-design-contest#comment-65030 From dean.mah at gmail.com Wed May 9 11:44:24 2007 From: dean.mah at gmail.com (Dean Mah) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:44:24 -0600 Subject: [theforum] tinyurl'ing Message-ID: In going through the comments and user profiles, we get a lot of links to external sites. Some are relevant, some are self-promotion hoping to capitalize on evolt.org's high page rank. Would it be worthwhile to redirect these links through evolt.org so that the links work but no benefit would be derived? Would this affect our page rank? From david at gigawatt.com Wed May 9 12:13:30 2007 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:13:30 -0400 Subject: [theforum] tinyurl'ing References: Message-ID: <007401c7925d$5e08d740$020010ac@cylon> Hi Dean, Dean Mah wrote: > In going through the comments and user profiles, we get a lot of links > to external sites. Some are relevant, some are self-promotion hoping > to capitalize on evolt.org's high page rank. Would it be worthwhile > to redirect these links through evolt.org so that the links work but > no benefit would be derived? Would this affect our page rank? I think the "nofollow tag" tag is supposed to do exactly that. It protects our page rank by telling search engines that these links, posted by visitors, are not "ours" in terms of relevance, without forcing us to forbid or filter them. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html Most of the bigger blog packages already adds this to comments, but Drupal doesn't appear to be doing this on our site. Drupal experts: Does Drupal have an add-on, plug-in or module that does this? -dave From russgriechen at comcast.net Wed May 9 15:36:31 2007 From: russgriechen at comcast.net (Russ Griechen) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:36:31 -0500 Subject: [theforum] tinyurl'ing References: <007401c7925d$5e08d740$020010ac@cylon> Message-ID: <00d101c79279$bc7faad0$6401a8c0@russell> nofollow..... > Drupal experts: Does Drupal have an add-on, plug-in or module that does > this? Depending on whether we are using 4.7 or 5.0....the following link may be relevant. http://drupal.org/node/98740#comment-173652 Russ Griechen From david at gigawatt.com Wed May 9 18:32:31 2007 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 19:32:31 -0400 Subject: [theforum] WEO, EO and "Friendly" Article URL Redirects Message-ID: <000501c79292$50d5ae10$020010ac@cylon> How come on WEO (*with* the www.) this article's "friendly URL" doesn't work: http://www.evolt.org/10_Worst_AdWords_Campaign_Management_Mistakes is [404] Not Found But on "EO" (the no-www-dot version of the site hostname) http://www.evolt.org/10_Worst_AdWords_Campaign_Management_Mistakes it is found (internally redirected to /node/$number) -dave From david at gigawatt.com Wed May 9 19:00:49 2007 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 20:00:49 -0400 Subject: [theforum] tinyurl'ing References: <007401c7925d$5e08d740$020010ac@cylon> <00d101c79279$bc7faad0$6401a8c0@russell> Message-ID: <000a01c79296$444d3a10$020010ac@cylon> Hi Russ! Russ Griechen wrote: > nofollow..... > >> Drupal experts: Does Drupal have an add-on, plug-in or module that >> does this? > > Depending on whether we are using 4.7 or 5.0....the following link > may be relevant. > http://drupal.org/node/98740#comment-173652 Ah, sweet. Thank you, I tried that and it worked... too well! Heheh. Since we offer the same "Input Formats" on comments as we do on story submissions, when I enabled this "Spam Link Deterrent" setting on both the "Filtered HTML" and "evolt.org permitted HTML" formatting options, it added rel="nofollow" to all the links in the articles, too :-( I need to dig a little deeper now to see if/how I can force links in *comments* to use this filter, but not links in approved, published articles. Things that make you go hmmmm... -dave From paul at xk7.net Thu May 10 03:02:38 2007 From: paul at xk7.net (Paul Waring) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 9:02:38 +0100 Subject: [theforum] WEO, EO and "Friendly" Article URL Redirects In-Reply-To: <000501c79292$50d5ae10$020010ac@cylon> References: <000501c79292$50d5ae10$020010ac@cylon> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2007 19:32:31 -0400, "David Kaufman" wrote: > How come on WEO (*with* the www.) this article's "friendly URL" doesn't > work: > > http://www.evolt.org/10_Worst_AdWords_Campaign_Management_Mistakes > is [404] Not Found > > But on "EO" (the no-www-dot version of the site hostname) > > http://www.evolt.org/10_Worst_AdWords_Campaign_Management_Mistakes > it is found (internally redirected to /node/$number) Both versions work for me without any problems, though I'd suggest that www is redirected to no-www or vice versa. Paul From dean.mah at gmail.com Sat May 12 16:20:59 2007 From: dean.mah at gmail.com (Dean Mah) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 15:20:59 -0600 Subject: [theforum] External Forum Message-ID: Bound to happen.... http://evolt.org/PHP-Login-System-with-Admin-Features#comment-65054 I have just create a forum Submitted by flafaille_at_ho... on May 12, 2007 - 13:03. I have just create a forum to talk about this PHP login system http://jpmaster77forum.conceptbb.com From paul at xk7.net Sat May 12 16:36:41 2007 From: paul at xk7.net (Paul Waring) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:36:41 +0100 Subject: [theforum] External Forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3874a39c04141cbaaa09c1b6a2059024@localhost> On Sat, 12 May 2007 15:20:59 -0600, "Dean Mah" wrote: > Submitted by flafaille_at_ho... on May 12, 2007 - 13:03. > I have just create a forum to talk about this PHP login system > > http://jpmaster77forum.conceptbb.com Rather a niche topic for a forum I would have thought... Paul From dmah at shaw.ca Sat May 12 18:12:22 2007 From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:12:22 -0600 Subject: [theforum] External Forum In-Reply-To: <3874a39c04141cbaaa09c1b6a2059024@localhost> References: <3874a39c04141cbaaa09c1b6a2059024@localhost> Message-ID: <464649D6.5040906@shaw.ca> Paul Waring wrote: > On Sat, 12 May 2007 15:20:59 -0600, "Dean Mah" wrote: >> Submitted by flafaille_at_ho... on May 12, 2007 - 13:03. >> I have just create a forum to talk about this PHP login system >> >> http://jpmaster77forum.conceptbb.com > > Rather a niche topic for a forum I would have thought... > > Paul It is. But consider that this article has the most comments on it from people requiring and providing support and the format of our comment system is so useless as to be almost worthless. That includes the slowness of the site, the fact that you can't directly click from the 'Most Recent Comments' list to a comment, lack of threading, being unable to 'watch' threads, etc. it isn't surprising that people have found a workaround. Dean From paul at xk7.net Sun May 13 01:42:12 2007 From: paul at xk7.net (Paul Waring) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 7:42:12 +0100 Subject: [theforum] External Forum In-Reply-To: <464649D6.5040906@shaw.ca> References: <464649D6.5040906@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <4ded7a15d0bd57d1b5c6d3a6302bc08e@localhost> On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:12:22 -0600, Dean Mah wrote: > It is. But consider that this article has the most comments on it from > people requiring and providing support and the format of our comment > system is so useless as to be almost worthless. That includes the > slowness of the site, the fact that you can't directly click from the > 'Most Recent Comments' list to a comment, lack of threading, being > unable to 'watch' threads, etc. it isn't surprising that people have > found a workaround. Doesn't Drupal have a forum module that does most of that? Paul From martin at easyweb.co.uk Sun May 13 05:22:26 2007 From: martin at easyweb.co.uk (Martin Burns) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:22:26 +0100 Subject: [theforum] External Forum In-Reply-To: <464649D6.5040906@shaw.ca> References: <3874a39c04141cbaaa09c1b6a2059024@localhost> <464649D6.5040906@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <87860E5E-1ED5-41F0-A2E8-64073B86A740@easyweb.co.uk> On 13 May 2007, at 00:12, Dean Mah wrote: > It is. But consider that this article has the most comments on it > from > people requiring and providing support and the format of our comment > system is so useless as to be almost worthless. That includes the > slowness of the site, the fact that you can't directly click from the > 'Most Recent Comments' list to a comment, lack of threading, being > unable to 'watch' threads, etc. it isn't surprising that people have > found a workaround. ...much of which can be summarised as "the comments requirements were never set up to enable this mode of use, or this number of comments on an article." fwiw, Drupal comments *do* support threading - we've just not enabled it. Cheers Martin -- > Spammers: Send me email -> yumyum at easyweb.co.uk to train my filter > http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/ Sell Cloth Nappies from your website: http://www.purpur.co.uk/announcing-purpur-associates